Erica: A deeper conversation about the needs of people and nature is often seen as secondary  at best to the ‘practical’ aspects of sustainability

Anthony: Perhaps then its about redefining what we mean by practical

Erica:  Yes good point, the meaning we  personally bring to language seems to be at the crux of this culture change. Language is so powerful and goes unnoticed consciously most of the time.  Perhaps the starting point of culture change is an awareness of our own lens and language and filling our own words with meaning. It is easy to use words like sustainability without actually defining what that means to us personally, this is certainly the practice within workplaces.

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